i think what's important is that we make investments in education, as you said early start education in the technical arena, a lot of people who are highly skilled, that have degrees that can't find work but many employers are looking for that mid-skill technician. maybe get an additional license or credential. go to a community college, the president has had so much money and energy to make sure at least two million people could get certificates in the matter of a couple of years. >> that's what's going to make this economy more robust. sometimes what people don't see and i think the history books tell us, after a deep deep recession, like the one we had, when we come out we come out 10 times stronger and 10 times more equipped. and i know you said more -- you see it more than we do here what we call the american spirit american eningenuity, making our country feel great. >> it's true. i run into small businesses that have employed people that were unemployed, women, immigrant communities that were coming together that were producing products that are being made here that were made